Eliza left a comment on a previous post asking how I liked Cascade Prima Cotton for tatting. I find that I like tatting with it, it flips easily and glides so you can close the rings. Of course it is still soft compared to tatting thread so its going to have a drape to it. It is also really nice for crochet. I used a little of both to make this placemat. The cascade ultra prima cotton tats up slightly larger than size 3 Lizbeth thread. It does not have the tight twist of Lizbeth thread so it is not stiff when tatted. This may be a problem for some people but I learned tatting with pearl cotton so its not a problem for me. It also comes in great colors but not as many as the Lizbeth size 3. I am currently tatting up this pattern in size 3 thread and I will show a size comparison when finished.